Tia Schwab is Policy Advisor for the New York City Mayor’s Office of Food Policy (MOFP). She received her Masters of Food and Agriculture Law and Policy in 2022. Tia conducts food policy research and analysis, and her portfolio includes the NYC Good Food Purchasing program, climate and environment, and food education.
What’s your favorite food?
Fried avocado tacos and chips and queso—or really any Tex-Mex. (I grew up in Austin!)
What do you enjoy about your work?
I love how interdisciplinary it is – food systems work touches health, education, sustainability, climate, equity, and city/regional planning. I get to work with and learn from people across different government agencies and community organizations. I also get to work on food in a variety of settings, like schools, hospitals, shelters, food pantries, older adult centers, detention centers, community centers, and more.
What do you find challenging about your work?
Changing the status quo can be challenging. Improving the food system requires shifting how we grow, package, store, buy, distribute, and discard food, and inertia is powerful–it’s easier to continue doing what we’re doing than to try something new. However, there are talented and passionate people and organizations driving systems-level change forward.
What areas of the food system do you focus on in your work, and where does that fit in with the rest of the work that you do?
Each year, NYC spends over $300M on food and meals served at the city’s schools, older adult centers, shelters, hospitals, pantries, detention facilities, and more. I implement NYC’s Good Food Purchasing framework, which aims to align the city’s food purchases with the values of nutrition, environmental sustainability, local economies, animal welfare, and a valued workforce. I coordinate across city agencies to ensure that meal programs offer choices that are healthy, delicious, culturally relevant, and good for the planet, and this all starts with the food we buy.
Good Food Purchasing intersects with my other portfolio areas of climate and environment, food education, and business and labor. With our food purchasing data, our goal is to decrease the CO2-equivalent emissions of our food purchases by 33% by 2030 and (year over year) increase the dollar spend going to New York State businesses and to minority- and women-owned businesses. I also work on expanding culinary training and nutrition education in a variety of settings across the city. Increasing the preparation and consumption of healthy, delicious meals requires an investment in the city’s culinary workforce and in food education.
Do you consider yourself a food systems planner? Why or why not?
Yes—at MOFP, I work with a variety of stakeholders to plan and create a healthier, more sustainable, and more equitable food system in NYC.
What is the biggest food systems planning-related hurdle your community/organization faced in recent years and how was it dealt with?
Like in many other cities, the COVID-19 pandemic caused a dramatic increase in food insecurity in New York City. However, the city mobilized quickly to support vulnerable New Yorkers. It expanded the school meal program to serve three free meals per weekday to all children and adults in need, provided pantries with staffing support and $50 million in funding, implemented an emergency home-delivered meals program for seniors and other at-risk groups, connected large food businesses with PPE manufacturers and donated PPE to smaller grocery stores in highly-impacted areas, provided free childcare for grocery workers and other essential employees, and much more. The city’s response to COVID-19 addressed immediate food needs while creating a plan for improving food system resilience in the longer term.
How has your perception of food systems planning changed since you first entered the planning field?
When I first entered the planning field, my thinking on food systems planning was informed by the importance of addressing immediate needs with advancing upstream strategies for the future, such as investing in food pantries while building regional food hubs. My work in local government has taught me the importance of implementing realistic or pragmatic solutions (under legal or economic realities, for example) while pushing for idealistic, ‘game-changing’ solutions. Neither should be ignored in creating a better food system.
Who has had the most influence on you as a planner? As a food systems planner?
My professor and mentor in college, Dara Olmsted Silverstein, has had the most influence on my path as a food systems planner. My senior year, I took a year-long class with Dara called “Designing Your Pathway to Impact in the Food System,” where we got to explore different career paths, conduct informational interviews with people we admired, and go on field trips to see food systems work in action. There’s not always space in degree programs for self-guided study or exploration, but Dara championed it and encouraged me to test drive different career paths after graduation. Since then, she has continued to support me with advice about navigating job changes, new degrees, and moves to new cities. (And as a bonus, Dara was my manager for my on-campus job in the dining hall food gardens and microgreens greenhouse, so she also inspired an appreciation for the power of growing your own food!)
Do you have any advice for someone entering the food systems planning field? What makes you successful in your work? What skills do you use the most in your food systems planning-related work?
The skills I use the most (and that make me the most successful) are communication, relationship building, and project management. My work requires coordinating across people and teams, in and out of government, to advance projects and track progress. I have always learned the most relevant ‘topical’ knowledge on the job, so supplement your food systems expertise with transferrable skills like writing, public speaking, and problem solving.
What did you study and what do you wish you would have known before starting your work in food systems?
I studied human biology with a focus on food systems and public health as an undergraduate, and I completed my master’s degree in food and agriculture law and policy. Looking back, I would tell myself that you don’t need to have your whole career path figured out; just follow the opportunities that excite you along the way. You will be most effective in driving food systems transformation by working on topics that interest you with people that inspire you.